(ANSA) - ROME, SEPTEMBER 29 - On the Recovery Fund, "however, a clash has opened between Visegrad countries such as Poland and Hungary that do not want interference or conditionality on their rule of law, and the so-called 'frugal' countries who think that the rule of law should be essential to access the funds. Italy has its say: Article 7 and the procedures on the rule of law are fundamental. Germany plays a decisive role in all this; it is working on mediation. We need to negotiate with the EU Parliament." Interviewed by Repubblica, Italy's Minister for European Affairs Enzo Amendola warns that "we risk ending up in a bottleneck that lengthens the recovery times." "If the discussion continues like this, in these exciting tones and with threats of veto, which I think is far away from the logic of the community, we could have to block everything," underlined Amendola. "The German Presidency must take this mediation home". On migrants, "a serious agreement would end ten years of European weakness. In a few months, we would put in the attic the austerity and lack of solidarity that have been the cause of populism and many domestic political problems", Amendola said. "Of course it will be a complex arrangement. However, the Commission's draft is important because it finally opens negotiations, even if there is still a lot of work to be done." Regarding China and 5G, "we have to recover years, during which there was no reciprocity between China and Europe on elements such as trade and international law standards. On the technological infrastructures, we pretended that there was no security problem," said Amendola. "It is not just a matter of commercial competition: the management of the data traveling through these infrastructures must have a security requirement because we should take into account the intellectual property and, above all, the personal data of Italians and Europeans." (ANSA).